German Shepherd Forum

saddlebred16 · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:52 pm Post subject:

o.k., here are the x-rays I have been working at getting. Feel free to guess. It may take me a little bit to find out the ratings they received (if any, some of these are diagnostics for other things and are just being used to show poor positioning).

These are obviously diagnostic (these were for spine) but a great show of what poor positioning can do to good hips.

These were some actual hip x-rays:
We'll call this Dog 1

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UCD, UCH, SG Rebel, BH, CGC, 2/3 of CD, 2x Total Dog, TDI, DNA
UCH Bullet, CGC, TDI, DNA
SG Laika, CGC, TDI, DNA
Nemo, CGC, TDI

Waiting over the bridge:
UCD Ranger, BH, SD, CGC, TDI 11/21/04-8/7/09
Forever would have been too short

saddlebred16 · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:57 pm Post subject:

Dog 2

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UCD, UCH, SG Rebel, BH, CGC, 2/3 of CD, 2x Total Dog, TDI, DNA
UCH Bullet, CGC, TDI, DNA
SG Laika, CGC, TDI, DNA
Nemo, CGC, TDI

Waiting over the bridge:
UCD Ranger, BH, SD, CGC, TDI 11/21/04-8/7/09
Forever would have been too short

saddlebred16 · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:02 pm Post subject:

Dog 3

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UCD, UCH, SG Rebel, BH, CGC, 2/3 of CD, 2x Total Dog, TDI, DNA
UCH Bullet, CGC, TDI, DNA
SG Laika, CGC, TDI, DNA
Nemo, CGC, TDI

Waiting over the bridge:
UCD Ranger, BH, SD, CGC, TDI 11/21/04-8/7/09
Forever would have been too short

BettyL · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:48 am Post subject:

Update.....I still haven't gotten the OFA Certificate from OFA in the mail, but Cayman is now on the OFA site. His hips are OFA Fair. Nothing on the elbows yet, but I know they will go OFA Normal.

So, those of you that said Fair, you were right!!
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Bismarch, BH,CGC, TT, TD
Frieda
Taser, BH, AD, CGC , TT and 2/3 of the CD
Cayman vom Nordsturm, SchH 2, BH, AD,CGC, TT
Carlo vom Tauglichkeit, BH, AD

GSDBESTK9 · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:34 am Post subject:

Betty, I just got the same thing on Ultro!! I posted on the other board under brags.
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Ultro v. Johnson-Haus, BH, CGC, TN-N
Gala v. Landholz, SchH1
Aslan v. Zioner Berg
Tara v. Kirchberghof SchH1
Evi van Huize Dimano SchH1

BettyL · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:44 am Post subject:

LOL the vets who read the xrays must have been in a "Fair" mood!!
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Bismarch, BH,CGC, TT, TD
Frieda
Taser, BH, AD, CGC , TT and 2/3 of the CD
Cayman vom Nordsturm, SchH 2, BH, AD,CGC, TT
Carlo vom Tauglichkeit, BH, AD

GSDBESTK9 · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:52 am Post subject:

I did hear that they have new Ortho. docs and that they are being very strick!! It was about darn time!!
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Sam, CGC, NA, NAJ, NAC, O-NJC, S-TN-N, O-TG-N, WV-N, TN-O, S-TN-O
Ultro v. Johnson-Haus, BH, CGC, TN-N
Gala v. Landholz, SchH1
Aslan v. Zioner Berg
Tara v. Kirchberghof SchH1
Evi van Huize Dimano SchH1

blitzen · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:08 am Post subject:

It may be that OFA has raised the bar for the breed since they have so many GSD xrays in their data base giving them more to use for comparison. The criterium is different for every breed, a St with an OFA excellent may not even get a number if it were a GSD. Today's OFA fair GSD might have been yesterday's OFA good.

The OFA consensus is based on a comparison of other dogs of the same age and breed. Not a bad thing to raise that bar I guess, but then again so many vets are taking substandard hip films that some normal dogs could fail to attain a certifcation due to poor positioning and/or exposure. It looks like it will be even more important to carefully choose the vet you use for hip xrays. Only a moron could mess up an elbow xray LOL.

BettyL · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:13 am Post subject:

blitzen · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:22 am Post subject:

I think you are right, Betty. OFA stats do seem to support OFA's conclusion that the breeds with the most dogs rated excellent tend to produce less HD. Considering the number of GSD xrays submitted to date, I think the percentage of excellents is a lot lower than most other breeds. That too could be another reason to raise the standard. Then again, maybe the readers had migraines when they rated these dogs fair. Who knows that another xray wouldn't receive a good. Been there, done that.
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VTcoach · King of the Pill Joined: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 1305

So any OFA excellent dogs out there should be breeding every minute of every day ....lol

BettyL · Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:50 am Post subject:

Another update. I got Cayman's elbow resulsts. He has Grade 1 Elbow Dysplasia in both elbows. The Radiographic Findings came back as Degenerative Joint Disease. NOT what I was hoping for....BUT, he's not showing any clinical signs, more importantly...HE IS HEALTHY.
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Home to:
Bismarch, BH,CGC, TT, TD
Frieda
Taser, BH, AD, CGC , TT and 2/3 of the CD
Cayman vom Nordsturm, SchH 2, BH, AD,CGC, TT
Carlo vom Tauglichkeit, BH, AD

eichenluft · Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:52 am Post subject:

DJD is the fancy term for arthritis. Grade 1 is the least severe. So, shouldn't be a problem. Could be just a "touch", but if it's in both elbows, a sign that there is probably something that could be better in the structure, causing some friction.

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Hawiian2 · Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:45 am Post subject:

BUMP

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Rookie · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:31 am Post subject:

Mike look at you...bumping stuff up and all...we made a good choice in making you a mod!!
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blitzen · Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:38 pm Post subject:

IMO she looks normal for her breed and age. The positioning could be a lot better, but I don't see anything I'd be concerend about if she were my dog.
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Alisia · New member Joined: 31 Oct 2007 Posts: 6

I am going to send one of my female's hip xray to the SV for A stamp -- They do not look totqally great to me. What do you guys think?? I will ad the pics of the xray below. Thanks for any help/thoughts.
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Alisia · New member Joined: 31 Oct 2007 Posts: 6

Sorry it is late ... please forgive my poor typing at this hour, but here is a pic of the hip films held up to the light.
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Alisia · New member Joined: 31 Oct 2007 Posts: 6

OK here is the film -- I held it up to the light and snapped a picture
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Alisia · New member Joined: 31 Oct 2007 Posts: 6

I just had this film done the other day --- I am kinda concerned about it. What do you guys think? I would really appreciate any input.
Alisia